May 18, 2011 What gun is this? Remington 1917 Maybe Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by korntera, Dec 27. Serial number means it was built July 1918 and it has eagles stamped on almost every part. I paid only $175 for it AT a gun shop but 1917's go from $425 to $1,500. The sporterized Remington model 1917 is probably the best deal in surplus.
Well, Folks I got me one!My 1917 Enfield arrived fromt he CMP, and she is a bute! The serial number is 925,000 range and the metal is in excellent shape! The wood has the character dings and scratches, but she is a bute.If I didn't already say that. I have a question though, I am a learning person in this area.The make of this rifle is 'Eddystone' U.S.
Does anyone have any knowledge on the make of this weapon??? I am just about complete in a series of US battle rifles, I have the S/A M-1a and H&R Garand as well as the S/A O3 and the Smith and Corona O3A3, I also have the (inland) M-1 Carbine and a RRA LAR15. Now I just need to find a Thompson.
Welcome to the forum WPD80. I know very little about the 1917 but here it comes anyway The 1917 is America's retooling of the pattern 14 Enfield that were to be sold to England before things got real ugly for the Brits in that era. The US redesigned it so it would run with 3006 ammo and used it I think due to a need of rifles for our troops. Eddystone was a arsenal that I think was run with the help of Remington in the state of New York. I may be wrong on that but thats what I'm digging out of memory (old) You may someday run across the same model made by Remington or Winchester as well.
Once upon a time I had a P-14 rifle and with cast bullets it shot very well, ball ammo wasn't so great because of bore dimensions. Jack is right - Eddystone was affiliated with Remington and was one of three manufacturers - Winchester and Remington being the other two. About 1.2 million Eddystone M1917s were made and roughtly the same amount were made totally by the other two.
Download just the way you are bruno mars mp3. Approximately 3/4 of US soldiers in WWI carried the M1917. It was put in war reserve after the war and hundreds of thousands were sold or Lend Leased to England and China.
Large numbers were sold to the Philippine Army and they used it in the early days of WWII. Many also saw use as training rifles by the US and a few were taken overseas, mostly by service units.
Hello Today I purchased a Remington model of 1917 and I was hoping to learn more about it. From what I have learned using google the barrel is not original to the gun as there is a 'HS' stamp where I have come to learn should be an 'R' to match the maker name on the receiver. It also has been stamped in the wood with a O.G.E.K. Which I guess means its been rebuilt?
I really don't know what kind of information to provide to help in identification. The serial number is 579*** and it has the 'Flaming-Bomb' mark all over it. There is also a 'P' stamped with a circle around it on the wood behind the trigger guard.
I haven't come across any information on what this might be. The wood has got quite a few dings in it but nothing to severe from what I can tell. If it's not too much trouble I would like to know an estimated value and more information on where it came from and whats been done too it. Thanks for your time and I look forward to reading your responses.
DJC, Welcome to the forum. You have a 'Enfield' pattern (P17) rifle made originally for use in WW1. The one you have has been rebarrelled during the WW2 period with an HIGH STANDARD barrel. Stamping indicates rebuild at Ogden Arsenal with inspection by Elmer Keith (yep, that Elmer).
The 'flaming bomb' was the Ordnance Dept. Acceptance stamps at the time of manufacture and through early part of WW2, later replaced by the 'ordnance wheel with crossed cannons' (can't remember exactly when that occurred). The 'circled P' indicates proof firing and acceptance. In v.good condition I have seen examples sell just north of 600 bucks here in Eastern PA - higher for better condition or all original. They are becoming more scarce in the market and prices are rising. Let's see what folks from other areas have to say. All I can add is this, the non-matching barrel is a common thing.
One has to concider that it is/was a military weapon that most likely saw service thus when partts wear out or are damaged they are replaced. Now how they are replaced is not by matching up to another original to mamnufacture but a barrel was pulled from a parts bin at the armory and put on the receiver no matter the maker. Another thing is those were used in WWI (and afterwards) by our troops, that rifl;e was most likely the type Sgt York was carrying in France, and they are usually great shooters. I own one as well as the P-14 (303) British look a like (long story but the 1917 is actually a copy of the P-14 british Enfield) and love shooting both. My Great Grand Father carried a 1917 in WWI so anotehr reason I like mine. Shoot it, enjoy it, and cherish the old war horse. Everyone has been very helpful and I have just one last question about this gun.
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May 18, 2011 What gun is this? Remington 1917 Maybe Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by korntera, Dec 27. Serial number means it was built July 1918 and it has eagles stamped on almost every part. I paid only $175 for it AT a gun shop but 1917's go from $425 to $1,500. The sporterized Remington model 1917 is probably the best deal in surplus.
Well, Folks I got me one!My 1917 Enfield arrived fromt he CMP, and she is a bute! The serial number is 925,000 range and the metal is in excellent shape! The wood has the character dings and scratches, but she is a bute.If I didn't already say that. I have a question though, I am a learning person in this area.The make of this rifle is 'Eddystone' U.S.
Does anyone have any knowledge on the make of this weapon??? I am just about complete in a series of US battle rifles, I have the S/A M-1a and H&R Garand as well as the S/A O3 and the Smith and Corona O3A3, I also have the (inland) M-1 Carbine and a RRA LAR15. Now I just need to find a Thompson.
Welcome to the forum WPD80. I know very little about the 1917 but here it comes anyway The 1917 is America's retooling of the pattern 14 Enfield that were to be sold to England before things got real ugly for the Brits in that era. The US redesigned it so it would run with 3006 ammo and used it I think due to a need of rifles for our troops. Eddystone was a arsenal that I think was run with the help of Remington in the state of New York. I may be wrong on that but thats what I'm digging out of memory (old) You may someday run across the same model made by Remington or Winchester as well.
Once upon a time I had a P-14 rifle and with cast bullets it shot very well, ball ammo wasn't so great because of bore dimensions. Jack is right - Eddystone was affiliated with Remington and was one of three manufacturers - Winchester and Remington being the other two. About 1.2 million Eddystone M1917s were made and roughtly the same amount were made totally by the other two.
Download just the way you are bruno mars mp3. Approximately 3/4 of US soldiers in WWI carried the M1917. It was put in war reserve after the war and hundreds of thousands were sold or Lend Leased to England and China.
Large numbers were sold to the Philippine Army and they used it in the early days of WWII. Many also saw use as training rifles by the US and a few were taken overseas, mostly by service units.
Hello Today I purchased a Remington model of 1917 and I was hoping to learn more about it. From what I have learned using google the barrel is not original to the gun as there is a 'HS' stamp where I have come to learn should be an 'R' to match the maker name on the receiver. It also has been stamped in the wood with a O.G.E.K. Which I guess means its been rebuilt?
I really don't know what kind of information to provide to help in identification. The serial number is 579*** and it has the 'Flaming-Bomb' mark all over it. There is also a 'P' stamped with a circle around it on the wood behind the trigger guard.
I haven't come across any information on what this might be. The wood has got quite a few dings in it but nothing to severe from what I can tell. If it's not too much trouble I would like to know an estimated value and more information on where it came from and whats been done too it. Thanks for your time and I look forward to reading your responses.
DJC, Welcome to the forum. You have a 'Enfield' pattern (P17) rifle made originally for use in WW1. The one you have has been rebarrelled during the WW2 period with an HIGH STANDARD barrel. Stamping indicates rebuild at Ogden Arsenal with inspection by Elmer Keith (yep, that Elmer).
The 'flaming bomb' was the Ordnance Dept. Acceptance stamps at the time of manufacture and through early part of WW2, later replaced by the 'ordnance wheel with crossed cannons' (can't remember exactly when that occurred). The 'circled P' indicates proof firing and acceptance. In v.good condition I have seen examples sell just north of 600 bucks here in Eastern PA - higher for better condition or all original. They are becoming more scarce in the market and prices are rising. Let's see what folks from other areas have to say. All I can add is this, the non-matching barrel is a common thing.
One has to concider that it is/was a military weapon that most likely saw service thus when partts wear out or are damaged they are replaced. Now how they are replaced is not by matching up to another original to mamnufacture but a barrel was pulled from a parts bin at the armory and put on the receiver no matter the maker. Another thing is those were used in WWI (and afterwards) by our troops, that rifl;e was most likely the type Sgt York was carrying in France, and they are usually great shooters. I own one as well as the P-14 (303) British look a like (long story but the 1917 is actually a copy of the P-14 british Enfield) and love shooting both. My Great Grand Father carried a 1917 in WWI so anotehr reason I like mine. Shoot it, enjoy it, and cherish the old war horse. Everyone has been very helpful and I have just one last question about this gun.